The problem with that, though, is that until Glaedr and Oromis were attacked by Kialandi and Formora, they had no suspicion that these two had turned traitor and joined Galby’s side. Which means that the “Banishing of Names” couldn’t have occurred until well after the identities of the thirteen Forsworn were known by all. And considering Kialandi and Formora’s betrayal came days before the attack on Uru’baen, then their dragons couldn’t have been part of the Banishing, unless the Banishing happened after the attack on Uru’baen but before the attack on Vroengard. This also means that nobody should have any inkling of belief that the Rider stronghold would be attacked, that Galby - with only Morzan and maybe a few other people by this point - would have the cahones to attack the bastion of the Riders’ strength.
Yeah, the continuity and logic in this chapter is ridiculously fucked. I'm going to have to do a lot of cleanup whenever I go over background stuff in Consequence. At least the rampant use of memory manipulation gives me a very easy excuse for not matching with canon: that much mental meddling has to leave a mark.
Though perhaps the simpler explanation is that they're lying through the teeth they no longer have and Eragon is buying it like the sucker he is.
And the reason why I say it’s a hamster wheel is because it literally goes nowhere but in circles. Yes, the concept popped up back in Book One, which is where the idea of the vault originated. At that point, there was probably a solid idea of what the vault was, where it was located, and what was in it, but we’re now three books later, and I feel like the original idea of it has been lost. The author was in scramble mode now because he had to turn in a finished project even though he was tired of said project.
This is almost certainly exactly what happened.
One thing I have restated fairly often is that throughout the Inheritance cycle, the sense that the author is having fun writing it drops off book by book. It's there for almost the entirety of Eragon and is more or less the whole reason why I still have some nostalgia for that book, but by Brisingr it's almost entirely gone, and I struggled to find any of it in Inheritance. At that point, Paolini was just trying to finish the series; I doubt he cared much for continuity.
It's quite likely that this accounts for other, lesser continuity errors, such as Jarnunvösk being referred to with masculine pronouns in Brisingr and Murtagh's hair flipping between dark brown and black.
What if Saphira refused to hatch?
Honestly? I think she did, and the Dragonballs forced it. Either that, or she really settled.
In Eragon, Ajihad says the following: "He [Brom] proposed that the egg be ferried between the Varden and the elves every year. At each place children would parade past it, and then the bearers of the egg would wait to see if the dragon would hatch. If it didn’t, they would leave and return to the other group. But if the dragon did hatch, the new Rider’s training would be undertaken immediately."
The wording here would suggest that hatching typically happens very quickly once a compatible dragon and prospective Rider and introduced. If all the children need to do is "parade past" the egg, then it shouldn't take much time for a dragon to decide whether they want to choose someone as their Rider; plus, if there were a significant time delay between that decision and the actual hatching, the child who triggered the hatching might no longer be present to form the actual Rider bond. This is, incidentally, what I based the speed of Verja's hatching in Consequence on.
Eragon finds Saphira's egg in the Spine right off the bat in book one, chapter one. She hatches three chapters later... after at least twenty-two days. Yes, I went through the intervening text and counted the explicit time references.
That is a very long delay.
Excuse me while I laugh.
In light of the above evidence, you are absolutely right to.
Eragon’s only a Sue because he’s a self-insert and everyone jumps to help him even if he shouldn’t need it. Roran, on the other hand, is a Sue because the Deus ex Machina fairy has taken a life insurance policy out on him.
Roran is going to get stripped of his plot armor in Consequence, and it's not going to be pretty.
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Yeah, the continuity and logic in this chapter is ridiculously fucked. I'm going to have to do a lot of cleanup whenever I go over background stuff in Consequence. At least the rampant use of memory manipulation gives me a very easy excuse for not matching with canon: that much mental meddling has to leave a mark.
Though perhaps the simpler explanation is that they're lying through the teeth they no longer have and Eragon is buying it like the sucker he is.
And the reason why I say it’s a hamster wheel is because it literally goes nowhere but in circles. Yes, the concept popped up back in Book One, which is where the idea of the vault originated. At that point, there was probably a solid idea of what the vault was, where it was located, and what was in it, but we’re now three books later, and I feel like the original idea of it has been lost. The author was in scramble mode now because he had to turn in a finished project even though he was tired of said project.
This is almost certainly exactly what happened.
One thing I have restated fairly often is that throughout the Inheritance cycle, the sense that the author is having fun writing it drops off book by book. It's there for almost the entirety of Eragon and is more or less the whole reason why I still have some nostalgia for that book, but by Brisingr it's almost entirely gone, and I struggled to find any of it in Inheritance. At that point, Paolini was just trying to finish the series; I doubt he cared much for continuity.
It's quite likely that this accounts for other, lesser continuity errors, such as Jarnunvösk being referred to with masculine pronouns in Brisingr and Murtagh's hair flipping between dark brown and black.
What if Saphira refused to hatch?
Honestly? I think she did, and the Dragonballs forced it. Either that, or she really settled.
In Eragon, Ajihad says the following:
"He [Brom] proposed that the egg be ferried between the Varden and the elves every year. At each place children would parade past it, and then the bearers of the egg would wait to see if the dragon would hatch. If it didn’t, they would leave and return to the other group. But if the dragon did hatch, the new Rider’s training would be undertaken immediately."
The wording here would suggest that hatching typically happens very quickly once a compatible dragon and prospective Rider and introduced. If all the children need to do is "parade past" the egg, then it shouldn't take much time for a dragon to decide whether they want to choose someone as their Rider; plus, if there were a significant time delay between that decision and the actual hatching, the child who triggered the hatching might no longer be present to form the actual Rider bond. This is, incidentally, what I based the speed of Verja's hatching in Consequence on.
Eragon finds Saphira's egg in the Spine right off the bat in book one, chapter one. She hatches three chapters later... after at least twenty-two days. Yes, I went through the intervening text and counted the explicit time references.
That is a very long delay.
Excuse me while I laugh.
In light of the above evidence, you are absolutely right to.
Eragon’s only a Sue because he’s a self-insert and everyone jumps to help him even if he shouldn’t need it. Roran, on the other hand, is a Sue because the Deus ex Machina fairy has taken a life insurance policy out on him.
Roran is going to get stripped of his plot armor in Consequence, and it's not going to be pretty.