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Wow, this place has really gone dead lately. Rest assured, though, that the next chapter spork should be posted soon! Promise!
Meanwhile something has occurred to me, which is that at some point during Eldest, Eragon stops ever feeling any sort of (believable, shown on the page) fear. I think the last time it ever happens is when he tells Saphira he's scared because he doesn't know when he's going to have another back scar pain attack and doesn't know what to do about it.
From pretty much that point onward he acts like a goddamn robot in dangerous situations. He doesn't panic, he doesn't get sweaty palms or a racing heartbeat - but rather more relevantly, his decisions and behaviour don't ever change as a result of feeling fear. He doesn't irrationally lash out or make stupid decisions because he's afraid. He doesn't freeze up or retreat or even say something stupid because he's afraid. In fact the only time Paolini really bothers to give him some token show of fear or trepidation, it's when he has to... give a speech. Not when he has to, oh, face off against the ultimate evil king of evilness (let's pretend) and his dragon who's the size of a goddamn castle. Nope. Cool as a cucumber. He's calm and clear-headed all the way through.
And it's both unsympathetic and fucking ridiculous.
Meanwhile something has occurred to me, which is that at some point during Eldest, Eragon stops ever feeling any sort of (believable, shown on the page) fear. I think the last time it ever happens is when he tells Saphira he's scared because he doesn't know when he's going to have another back scar pain attack and doesn't know what to do about it.
From pretty much that point onward he acts like a goddamn robot in dangerous situations. He doesn't panic, he doesn't get sweaty palms or a racing heartbeat - but rather more relevantly, his decisions and behaviour don't ever change as a result of feeling fear. He doesn't irrationally lash out or make stupid decisions because he's afraid. He doesn't freeze up or retreat or even say something stupid because he's afraid. In fact the only time Paolini really bothers to give him some token show of fear or trepidation, it's when he has to... give a speech. Not when he has to, oh, face off against the ultimate evil king of evilness (let's pretend) and his dragon who's the size of a goddamn castle. Nope. Cool as a cucumber. He's calm and clear-headed all the way through.
And it's both unsympathetic and fucking ridiculous.
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Date: 2021-02-11 12:37 pm (UTC)So many people think that a badass character has to be fearless. What they don't quite get is that what makes a character badass is when they're shown overcoming the obstacle despite their fear.
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Date: 2021-02-11 12:45 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2021-02-11 12:56 pm (UTC)Hell, I'll quote it for you.
He's so unemotional about it that they might as well be talking about a trip to the shops to buy some milk.
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Date: 2021-02-11 01:18 pm (UTC)But it's a pity, really, because the way people face fear is one of the differences between heroes and villains in many stories.
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Date: 2021-02-11 01:26 pm (UTC)It's a subset of a larger problem in amateur storytelling: writers overlooking that genuine internal conflict is critical to establishing character and generating empathy.
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Date: 2021-02-11 01:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-02-11 03:40 pm (UTC)Oromis never freaks out. I get the sense that he just doesn't care. The sooner he gets Eragon out of his hair, the sooner he can get back to staring at a wall. Oh, but he has to make it a teaching moment so he can pretend he did his job.
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Date: 2021-02-11 03:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-02-11 04:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-02-11 09:09 pm (UTC)I was about to argue, but then I realised that "because he's afraid" is the qualifying statement. ;)
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Date: 2021-02-11 11:41 pm (UTC)Well, if you want, I can share with you my crappy writings and my recents WIPs, so you will spork the shit outta them. Can't confirm if they'll be better than what you're working with TSiaSoS at the moment. :P
Anyway, on the subject!
I do not have my Eldest hardcover copy with me, but I do remember this precise part you put out as an example of Eragon's turn into psychopath. However, was it before or after he turned as a super vegan elven ?
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Date: 2021-02-12 03:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-02-12 07:44 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-02-12 07:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-02-12 07:52 am (UTC)It definitely wouldn't be the first time.
It really is.
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Date: 2021-02-13 02:52 am (UTC)I've started to notice that with Kira, too. Aside from a few hints here and there of Kira being afraid of fighting, of the alien jellies, or concept of being host to a sentient parasite, etc., she's mostly just emotionally blank for most of the book. There's little to no fear or worry about anything much, not even laser gun battles with Lovecraftian horrors in a foreign environment.
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Date: 2021-02-13 05:05 am (UTC)