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I found this linked to a thread on Twitter/X.
 
I don't know what to think about it, so I wanted to share it with you.
 
(I might end up deleting this post later)

Re: 😢

Date: 2024-04-15 09:26 pm (UTC)
ultimate_cheetah: Ra'zac with a skull (Default)
From: [personal profile] ultimate_cheetah

werewolves as a metaphor for AIDs sufferers is horribly mishandled

I still can't get over that, in this metaphor, Fenrir Greyback is basically a sexually-active gay man who deliberately spreads AIDS to little boys, who are is preferred prey. I MEAN. WTF. That's so bad.

Date rape drugs

That they casually sell at a joke shop.

I remember when I was first reading Goblet of Fire, a character mentioned a law that only humans could have wands. I remember thinking how horrible that was and that the main character should fix it, but neither Harry nor Hermione, who haven't been raised in the wizarding world, and thus shouldn't think of this as normal, register this as a bad thing. (Hermione's only activism is trying to free some house elves.) Nobody tries to fix this magical caste system at all. I was younger than Harry Potter was in the book, and younger than the author was when she wrote it, and yet I saw a problem that neither did.

This isn't to say you can't have injustices in your world, or characters who have bigoted beliefs, but neither those beliefs nor the injustices should be supported by the narrative, in a meta sense.

Re: 😢

Date: 2024-04-16 11:08 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] epistler
I still can't get over that, in this metaphor, Fenrir Greyback is basically a sexually-active gay man who deliberately spreads AIDS to little boys, who are is preferred prey. I MEAN. WTF. That's so bad.

Oh yeah, it's the old gay = paedophile nonsense with fur on. She's not even trying to hide it.

That they casually sell at a joke shop.

And because Voldemort was conceived on the things Rowling said she had this idea that he couldn't feel love because he was made without love. So, yeah, if you were the result of a rape that makes you an evil psychopath! What sort of a message is that??

Hermione's only activism is trying to free some house elves.

And she's painted as foolish and misguided for doing it, and the house elves are shown to resent her for trying to set them free! Because, you know, slavery is just the natural order of things and they're better off that way.

This isn't to say you can't have injustices in your world, or characters who have bigoted beliefs, but neither those beliefs nor the injustices should be supported by the narrative, in a meta sense.

Yeah. They get rid of the bad guys but don't do anything to change the system that created them in the first place. I think it's pretty damn obvious it's all just going to happen again sooner or later. Just like how the Varden got rid of Galby but didn't do shit to make sure the next generation of Riders wouldn't be just as bad as the last lot and inevitably give rise to another Galby (which if you look at Eragon has arguably already happened).

Re: 😢

Date: 2024-04-19 02:59 am (UTC)
ultimate_cheetah: Ra'zac with a skull (Default)
From: [personal profile] ultimate_cheetah

Oh yeah, it's the old gay = paedophile nonsense with fur on. She's not even trying to hide it.

How does this slip past someone? I don't even think she did it deliberately. I just think it was unconscious.

And because Voldemort was conceived on the things Rowling said she had this idea that he couldn't feel love because he was made without love. So, yeah, if you were the result of a rape that makes you an evil psychopath! What sort of a message is that??

I remember that. WTF?

And she's painted as foolish and misguided for doing it, and the house elves are shown to resent her for trying to set them free! Because, you know, slavery is just the natural order of things and they're better off that way.

It could be argued that they don't want to be free because that's the only thing they know, which is exactly how a horrible system perpetuates itself.

They get rid of the bad guys but don't do anything to change the system that created them in the first place. I think it's pretty damn obvious it's all just going to happen again sooner or later.

Voldemort got alliances with lots of creatures like giants and werewolves because they felt persecuted. And this is ignored in place of some wand bullshit that lets Harry win.

Edited Date: 2024-04-19 03:00 am (UTC)

Re: 😢

Date: 2024-04-19 04:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] epistler
How does this slip past someone? I don't even think she did it deliberately. I just think it was unconscious.

Probably she just wanted to make Greyback seem extra creepy because, y'know, he's a villain and stuff.

It could be argued that they don't want to be free because that's the only thing they know, which is exactly how a horrible system perpetuates itself.

Which is what Hermione even says - that they're "uneducated and brainwashed". Does Harry have any thoughts about this? Nope. He couldn't possibly care less and even accepts his own personal slave at the end to make him a sammich.

Voldemort got alliances with lots of creatures like giants and werewolves because they felt persecuted. And this is ignored in place of some wand bullshit that lets Harry win.

More Galby parallels. There's no way in hell anyone's going to convince me that he won with just thirteen supporters rather than being the head of a mass uprising of disgruntled humans, wild dragons, and quite probably urgals and dwarves as well. All in order to overthrow the arrogant dictatorship of the original order who were the elves' puppets and not even trying to hide it. And okay, Eragon does at least add urgals and dwarves to the Rider pact thingy, but they're still going to be indoctrinated by the elves as soon as they get a dragon to hatch for them and the dragons are still being exploited and enslaved, and "the people" he allegedly fought for are considerably WORSE off than they were before. So in the end nothing has really been fixed at all. Going and murdering lots of people and putting a new dictator on the throne never fixed jack shit.

Re: 😢

Date: 2024-05-02 10:01 pm (UTC)
ultimate_cheetah: Ra'zac with a skull (Default)
From: [personal profile] ultimate_cheetah

Probably she just wanted to make Greyback seem extra creepy because, y'know, he's a villain and stuff.

It did work.

Which is what Hermione even says - that they're "uneducated and brainwashed". Does Harry have any thoughts about this? Nope. He couldn't possibly care less and even accepts his own personal slave at the end to make him a sammich.

His personal slave, whose ancestors stuffed heads are hanging on the wall. In defense of the books, Sirius's treatment of Kreacher was shown to be bad, and did eventually lead to his downfall. And there is progress made at the end, with house elves having gotten their own representative in the Ministry of Magic. However, Harry/Rowling doesn't go all the way with it, and consider that, if even someone like Sirius could treat Kreacher badly, what does that mean for the rest of the house elves. Harry doesn't even have the decency to be uncomfortable about the whole thing.

More Galby parallels. There's no way in hell anyone's going to convince me that he won with just thirteen supporters rather than being the head of a mass uprising of disgruntled humans, wild dragons, and quite probably urgals and dwarves as well.

I think the thirteen supporters were the ones who mainly fought (and I do think that the wizard's duel thing makes sense for how Riders can be defeated by only 14), but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some humans and elves who wanted things changed.

So in the end nothing has really been fixed at all. Going and murdering lots of people and putting a new dictator on the throne never fixed jack shit.

One thing that Eragon didn't consider was that his presence would be a danger to the next person on the throne. If he could bolster a rebellion against Galby, then he could do the same against Nasuada. I wouldn't be surprised if Nasuada eventually used the Name of Names to bump off Eragon quietly.

Re: 😢

Date: 2024-05-03 06:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] epistler
One thing that Eragon didn't consider was that his presence would be a danger to the next person on the throne. If he could bolster a rebellion against Galby, then he could do the same against Nasuada. I wouldn't be surprised if Nasuada eventually used the Name of Names to bump off Eragon quietly.

Plus he seems to think that moving a couple of blocks away means he won't ever be tempted to interfere in Alaglag's affairs again now that he's "too powerful". Um, he's still in constant contact with Nausea, Arya and probably Roran as well. The moment he hears anything he doesn't like, what exactly is going to stop him coming straight back and fucking everyone over for a second time?

Re: 😢

Date: 2024-05-04 06:57 pm (UTC)
ultimate_cheetah: Ra'zac with a skull (Default)
From: [personal profile] ultimate_cheetah

When I heard that he would leave Alagaesia and never return, I thought that meant that he would be going to the other continent. Not that he would just be going beyond the Eastern border. It seems a bit cheap to me.

Re: 😢

Date: 2024-05-05 06:06 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] epistler
More of Paolini's wussing out. To take it the whole way he should have had Ergy leave the entire continent, in a place where he can't be contacted for whatever reason, never to even hear from his friends again. But nope, just have him stay in shouting distance and thereby remove any real sense of tragedy there might have been.

Re: 😢

Date: 2024-05-15 02:01 pm (UTC)
ultimate_cheetah: Ra'zac with a skull (Default)
From: [personal profile] ultimate_cheetah

It's like if someone left New York State but they moved one mile over the border to Canada. And Eragon can just go right back. There's nothing stopping him.

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