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antishurtugal_reborn The link: www.reddit.com/r/Eragon/comments/n692qg/nasuada_is_the_next_galbatorix/
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Nasuada is the next Galbatorix
Think about it. After there’s an entire revolution against a tyrannical king, they just reinstate the monarchy and Nasuada starts a turn towards authoritarianism. She puts complete surveillance on magic users, she is furious when Eragon refuses to serve under her, and gives Orrin just a few cities in exchange for everything Surda has done to help the Varden. She’s going to be the next Galbatorix.
A couple of people are chalking this up to Christopher's brilliance rather than his just not thinking it through. The way the book was written, it did seem like this was supposed to be a rather happy ending.
The text:
Nasuada is the next Galbatorix
Think about it. After there’s an entire revolution against a tyrannical king, they just reinstate the monarchy and Nasuada starts a turn towards authoritarianism. She puts complete surveillance on magic users, she is furious when Eragon refuses to serve under her, and gives Orrin just a few cities in exchange for everything Surda has done to help the Varden. She’s going to be the next Galbatorix.
A couple of people are chalking this up to Christopher's brilliance rather than his just not thinking it through. The way the book was written, it did seem like this was supposed to be a rather happy ending.
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Date: 2021-05-09 06:59 am (UTC)Maybe Snarkbotanya can start posting Consequences to r/eragon?
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Date: 2021-05-09 04:11 pm (UTC)Ehhhh.... I think some people's heads would explode. (And it might cause the Eragon fans to think of us as complete jerks.)
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Date: 2021-05-10 08:33 am (UTC)Not as much as if Epistler posted the Sword and Shadow saga there ;)
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Date: 2021-05-10 02:29 pm (UTC)Re: 😈
Date: 2021-05-11 12:39 am (UTC)It seems like a bunch of them are getting bored at the fact that nothing's being updated in the IC. (And FWW seemed to have made a microscopic splash.) In the recent AMA, there were like literally eight Space Brick questions, and the rest were about the IC. (And half of the former were how it ties to the IC.)
All I've seen is some reviews of the Storm Dragons series is accusations of Eragon acting OOC, but that's it.
I wonder what they would think about a spitefic that changes canon, though?
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Date: 2021-05-11 12:47 am (UTC)From what I understand their definition of "OOC" is "acts like exactly the same nasty little asshole he is in canon, but this time his bad behaviour isn't excused or enabled by the narrative". It's amazing how revealing that can be. 😈
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Date: 2021-05-11 07:44 pm (UTC)From what I understand their definition of "OOC" is "acts like exactly the same nasty little asshole he is in canon, but this time his bad behaviour isn't excused or enabled by the narrative". It's amazing how revealing that can be. 😈
When the character is a main character, it's the audience's natural tendency to sympathize with them. (Like in "Breaking Bad".) People who like the books follow this tendency, since everything's justified in Eragon's mind. When they see the perspective from people who aren't Eragon, it gets more apparent.
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Date: 2021-05-12 04:48 am (UTC)Re: 😈
Date: 2021-05-13 10:20 pm (UTC)Well, and the guy playing him is handsome - no point in pretending that's not a factor.
And white, male characters get more leeway. There's also a tendency to empathize with the main character. (See how Skylar White got undeserved hate.)
Stalking, breaking and entering, theft of personal information and multiple murders were all excused away with "But he's in love!"
Christ. Yeah, as if Loooveee is always the answer. (And that message is crammed everywhere.)
In the end the actor who played him came out and made a public statement that "my character is NOT a good guy, what's wrong with you?" but I doubt it made much difference.
Ugh. I can't believe that was necessary.
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Date: 2021-05-14 04:56 am (UTC)Re: 😈
Date: 2021-05-14 05:00 am (UTC)Exactly. "It's fictional/doesn't affect me, so it doesn't matter."
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Date: 2021-05-09 07:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-05-09 04:15 pm (UTC)And Angela. They both immediately get the fuck out of dodge. Also, Arya is queen of the elves. None of the cast is affected by anything Nasuada does, so they don't have incentive to do anything.
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Date: 2021-05-10 08:06 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2021-05-11 07:47 pm (UTC)Yeah. The cities literally burnt? Nah, doesn't matter. For example, in Dras-Leona, how many people died from Saphira and Thorn's fight? But you know, not like they can do anything about it.
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Date: 2021-05-13 12:54 pm (UTC)To be fair to Paolini, that's also a staple of lots of monster movies and superhero movies. How many hapless humans died in Neo's fight against Smith at the end of the last Matrix movie? Or by the "good guys" in Pacific Rim? At least the MCU made the civilian casualties in Age of Ultron a major a plot point in Civil War.
There's a long history of "collateral damage" and mass civilian casualties by the "good guys" being overlooked so long as the "bad guy" is defeated. Even Power Rangers had to change their formula to stop showing inhabited buildings being destroyed, after 9/11.
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Date: 2021-05-13 10:15 pm (UTC)To be fair to Paolini, that's also a staple of lots of monster movies and superhero movies.
That is a good point. In Paolini's case, though, he takes pains to show how Noble Eragon is, and how much he cares about the people. Furthermore, in those movies, the entire earth is being saved, while in the I.C, this not-very densely populated country is being saved.
How many hapless humans died in Neo's fight against Smith at the end of the last Matrix movie?
I didn't see that. What happened?
Or by the "good guys" in Pacific Rim?
Didn't they evacuate the cities or go into shelters or something? And in that, Earth would be dead with the Kaiju, but people seem to be fine with Galbatorix.
One further point: those examples are pulpy, fun movies (well, at least until the sequels), that aren't meant to be taken too seriously. Paolini wanted to be the next Tolkien.